Tax Tables for MYOB | FAQ | Issues encountered

No, the 'load tables' process simply changes the tax tables in your data file. Our tax tables have been used for 3 years by some users without any problems confirming their data files.
According to MYOB during the activation and confirmation process, only 2 numbers are sent to MYOB - your serial number and a number generated when MYOB was installed. Changes to the tax tables has no effect on these numbers.
If you are concerned, do a backup before you need to confirm - so if there is a problem confirming, you can reload the backup and reload your old tables (oldpay2myob.bin) prior to confirming again.
Contrary to a commonly held misconception, you do not need to subscribe to Cover to have continued access to your company file. MYOB® will continue to confirm your company file even if you cease your cover subscription. See the last message on this forum post for confirmation - Forum Post

No, the FGH Tax Table Updater will step you through the entire process. See Q37 for more details.

Yes our tax tables will work correctly for weekly, fortnightly, monthly payments etc. MYOB® uses the same tax tables (which is just a formula) for all calculations.
When calculating for fortnightly payments the program basically divides the gross by 2, works out the weekly PAYG, then multiplies it my 2 to get the correct fortnightly amount.

If you do payroll you already have tax table info loaded into your current company data file. Whenever you process payroll, the program uses these tax tables for the PAYG calculations.
When you receive our updated tax tables, you will need to run Load Tax Tables as per the instructions which will be emailed to you. This will only update the tax table info in your company data file. It will not change any data, or any payroll transactions that have already been processed.
The process can easily be reversed by reloading the original tax table info you currently have.

I haven't tested the tables with any Enterprise versions however I believe the payroll function in Enterprise is the same as that in Premier. Enterprise v5 was released with Premier v11.
What I suggest is you download the demo for Premier v11 as well as the instructions and try it. If the demo works correctly, then the updated tax tables will also work, its just a case of using the correct version. (If version 11 comes up with an error message, try version 12)
Let me know if it works.
'postcript' I had tried a couple of your downloads previously which were incompatible and had given up hope, but on your suggestion tried Premier v11 and SUCCESS!!
Update - All Enterprise versions now have their own demo and purchase links.

Our tax table file, just like the original pay2myob.bin file, contains a set of tables which includes about 30 'tax scales' (although MYOB® refers to these as tables) eg No Tax Free Threshold, Tax Free Threshold etc.
The rates are correct for PAYG calculations made after a specified date, usually from 1 July and can be used until the Tax Office changes the rates.
The tables will not have the rates for all the years back to 2005. Payroll transactions processed for those previous years will not be affected. The new tax table file will only affect payroll transactions processed after the tax tables are loaded.

Open your data file, go to the Command Centre, Click on Card File, Card Lists, then the Employee Tab. Click on the arrow to the left of the employee's name, then select the Payroll Details tab, then Taxes. This screen should show you what tax table is selected for this employee.

The 2010 and later payment summaries have a new field (Reportable Employer Superannuation Contributions). The ATO will not accept an electronic payment summary (EMPDUPE file) without the extra field.
Only the more recent versions of MYOB® have the correct payment summaries (see Q44 for more information).
A recomended solution is to use a program called EMPDUPE Maker available from www.namich.com.au. This program allows you to load the non-compliant EMPDUPE file created by earlier versions of MYOB, and upgrade both the EMPDUPE file and the Payment Summaries.

Yes we will continue to update and provide tax tables on an ongoing basis.
After some discussions earlier with MYOB Australia, its possible they will change their tax table implementation in newer versions, however all versions currently covered will continue to be supported by FGHTables.
Update - MYOB have indeed changed the way tax tables are implemented in AR2011/12, making it impossible to use 3rd party tax tables. Our tables will work on all versions up to and including 19.8.

Yes and No. Our tax tables are constructed in a similar way to MYOB's tax tables. Importantly they give you the same result.
Our tables differ in 2 ways for identification purposes. Firstly, unlike MYOB's tax tables, our tables identify what version they are created for. Secondly, our tables have minor changes made to distinguish them from tax tables made by MYOB. See the 'Spot the difference' page for more information.

Before answering this question, let me stress that this site is aimed at those people who don't subscribe to Cover. Many users want to continue to use their existing version of software and simply have current PAYG tax tables. This generally means they are familiar with the software, it does everything they need it to do and they don't need technical support. We know users who happily run Plus v13 and have no need for all the bells and whistles available with the latest versions.
That said, according to MYOB Australia, with Cover (costing between $599 and $1076 depending on whether you have Plus, Premier or Enterprise - 2012) you become 'compliant with the latest changes from the ATO', you also receive any updates they have made to their software, technical support and access to M-Powered Services (usually $10/month).
Now for some people, particularly those who need technical support, Cover may well be the best option - although at $59 per call without Cover and free access to Support Notes as well as many online forums, you still have to do the sums to ensure you are getting value for money.
In relation to 'compliant with the latest changes from the ATO', apart from the PAYG tax tables which change almost every year, in the last 10 years there has only been one other change that has required changes to software. This is the change to payment summaries in the 2010 income year where the ATO added one extra field (Reportable Employer Superannuation Contributions). This meant that older versions could no longer generate compliant electronic payment summaries or the EMPDUPE file for electronic lodgment to the ATO.
If you have software prior to Plus v18.5 or Premier v12.5, you would need to upgrade to a later version, OR transfer the details from the MYOB generated payment summaries to compliant payment summaries (available from the ATO) and submit them to the ATO by post. While the electronic payment summary and EMPDUPE lodgment saves some time, given this is a once a year task, you would need to have several hundred employees before the cost would justify upgrading to a new version just for this purpose. See also www.namich.com.au which has a program to upgrade your MYOB EMPDUPE file and payment summaries and make them compliant.
A word of caution, we are aware of some users who upgraded their software, only to find they had to upgrade their hardware or operating system to run the new MYOB software. Particularly if you are using an older operating system or older hardware and are considering upgrading to a later version, we suggest you check for any differences between the system requirements of your current software and the upgrade you are considering before proceeding.
Each user can decide for themselves whether the cost of Cover is worth the benefits you will receive.
Aside from the one change to payment summaries in 2010, with our tax tables which cost less than 1/10th of the cost of Cover, you too can be 'compliant with the latest changes from the ATO'.

This is certainly possible. You will need to supply details of what tax tables you need including the withholding rates that apply to each table. This information is usually made available to employers by the local revenue authority.
(Postscript) Client provided the details requested. 3 tables were created, one for residents with threshold and TIN (similar to Aust TFN)), one for residents without TIN, and one for non-residents.

We are not part of MYOB. Our tax tables are compatible with MYOB products but they are not made by MYOB. They work just the same. We consider the fee we charge a reasonable cost for the tax tables.
Until 2010 there was no alternative way to get tax tables for MYOB products other than by upgrading to a new version or subscribing to their Cover program.
Rather than making their tax tables even harder to make, our hope is that MYOB will respond by making tax tables available separately for a reasonable price, as they used to do.
To be fair to MYOB, for the cost of the Cover program you do receive other benefits, not just the tax tables.

You can make a deposit directly to our bank account. Use the Buy Now link on the right hand side at bottom of home page to pay by bank transfer. Fill in the order form and in the Comments section, leave a message saying you want to pay by bank deposit. On the next screen, below the Paypal link you will find the bank details (BSB and Account Number) for you to make the deposit into our account.

Our tax tables work in the exact same way as MYOB's tax tables and they will definitely not corrupt your data file.
However as with any procedure, we recommend you do a backup before you load new tax tables (our's or MYOB's) just in case there is a power failure or any other mishap.

Well they are certainly not illegal! We have complied with all the relevant laws (copyright, trademark etc) particularly in relation to making something to operate or intergrate with someone else's software, ie our tax tables working with MYOB's program.
From a users point of view, there is no requirement or restriction in your licence agreement with MYOB Australia for you to use only their tax tables.

Yes. Our ABN is 68 360 237 629 and we are registered for GST.

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In v19.6 rather that replacing the Flood Levy Exempt tables with zero rates, we have filled those tables with the normal rates. This means that whether you use the normal table or the equivalent Flood Levy Exempt table, you will get the same result. Although employers should put employees who were Flood Levy Exempt in 2011-12 back to normal tables, some may overlook this. With our tables, they'll still get the correct result.

Once they realised we worked out how to make tax tables for MYOB®, MYOB responded by changing their software to ensure 3rd party tax tables will not work. See this link for more info. Our table will not work with AccountRight 2011 or later unless you modify their software. AccountRight Plus 2011 has a version number that looks like this - 2011.1.13.2802
Our tables will work with all Australian Release Versions up to and including 19.8.x as well as all AccountEdge versions up to an including AccountEdge v11.5.

We do offer a downgrade service for those not very happy with AR2013 due to how long everything takes. We can downgrade your company file to a v19.7 or 19.8 file without you having to re-enter any transactions (fairly costly though as it takes about 10 hrs per file).

The Carbon Tax will only be paid by 500 of the biggest Australian companies. When references are made to "Carbon Tax" changes in the context of MYOB, what they are referring to is the Federal Budget changes to the income tax rates to compensate taxpayers for the expected impacts of a carbon tax. It's another way of saying income tax rates have changed on 1 July 2012.
Our tax tables are correct for all the announced changes to income tax rates, including the carbon tax compensation, the changes to the flood levy, changes to leave loadings etc.

We have recently changed our licence agreement to make things easier. Basically the tax tables can be loaded to MYOB company data files on a "per serial number" basis.
This means that for all those company data files you maintain (provided all data files use the same MYOB serial number) you can use the same set of tax tables. A separate purchase must be made for each client who uses their own serial number. That client can use those tax tables on all company data files they have which use the same serial number.

Yes. Bulk purchases of 5 or more can be organised via email. Send an email with an estimate of the number of tax tables you expect to purchase to admin'at'fghtables.com (replacing the 'a' with the relevant symbol) and we will get back to you with a price and procedure.

Open MYOB, choose Help from the main menu, then About MYOB. This screen will show you the Australian Release Version number.
In AccountEdge, click AccountEdge on the menu bar, look under About AccountEdge. Use the "Australian Version" number rather than the Release number.

From 1 July 2012 entities that make payments to contractors in the Building and Construction Industry must submit a new report to the ATO after the end of the financial year (30 June 2013) which shows details of all payments to contractors. More information is available from the ATO here.
If you are affected by these changes, your current version of MYOB may not automatically generate this report. You can either submit a paper report based on records in your company file, or upgrade to a newer product. In fact this is the only substantial difference between using our tax tables and getting the latest Compliance Update. (Note: see MYOB's forum before proceeding to upgrade as even 19.7 only seems to produce a limited report which must be transcribed to a hard copy).
Note: If you decide to upgrade in order to get automated reporting, we suggest you get the Compliance Update (v19.7) rather than upgrading to the latest versions called AccountRight Plus 2011. See here for more info.

UPDATE: Our friends at Namich are currently developing a small app that will allow MYOB users to generate the required report from all MYOB versions up to v19.8. They expect release in Mar/Apr 2013 with an expected price under $40. See here for more information.

A large number of users subscribe to Cover or get the Compliance Update simply to get the latest tax tables (same as the ones we sell here for $58).
Apart from access to Support and all these 'vague benefits' MYOB refer to (such as a free training course see forum), the only other substantial difference will be a feature that some in the construction industry might find useful.
From 1 July 2012 entities that make payments to contractors in the Building and Construction Industry must submit a new report to the ATO after the end of the financial year (30 June 2013) which shows details of all payments to contractors. More information is available from the ATO here.
If you are affected by these changes, your current version of MYOB may not automatically generate this report. You can either submit a paper report based on records in your company file, or upgrade to the Compliance Update (Note: see MYOB's forum before proceeding as even 19.7 and 19.8 only seems to produce a limited report to enable you to complete the ATO forms by hand).
See Update comment in Q28.

There is a permission issue with Windows 7 (and Vista) that many users find annoying. Windows 7 no longer gives local administrators full access to the system, so even if you've set yourself as a local administrator, it may not allow you to save to any system protected directories.
There are many forum posts for how to solve this problem, Google Windows 7 and "you don't have permissions to save in this folder" or something similar.
Here is an extract from one of those posts and a possible solution for you:
'The "You don't have permissions to save in this folder" message appears when you do not have enough permissions to write to this folder with your administrative credentials (given to you by UAC). You can right-click on that folder and select Permissions. Then go to Security tab. Once you are there, you will see you do not have write permission for this folder. Change that to Full access and Windows 7 will not complain anymore.'

The current tax tables used by MYOB are in a bin file usually called Pay2Myob.bin.
To find out if you have the correct tax tables, run MYOB and open your company file. On the menu bar choose Setup, then General Payroll Information. Half way down this screen is a Tax Table Revision Date entry. For the 2012-13 financial year, the Tax Table Revision Date needs to be 1/7/2012.

Yes, we were contacted by MYOB's legal department soon after we started selling tax tables for MYOB.
We had several exchanges, and we sent them a copy of tax tables we had made and step by step instructions of how we made them (without touching their program).
MYOB have responded by making it impossible for our tax tables to work with their latest version ( see FAQ Q22 ).

Click here for more information about this issue.

Click Setup on the menu bar, then Company Information. The serial number is found in the top left of the screen.
If you require a serial number to be removed from your Company File, see here.

The FGH Tax Table Updater is used for all MYOB® PC versions up to and including 19.7. It can be downloaded from here.
The download comes as a Windows Installer file with an .msi extension. Save this to your harddrive, then double click the file to setup the Updater. Once installation is complete there will be a FGH Tax Table Updater icon on your desktop as well as in your Start - All Programs menu. Run the Tax Table Updater. It will take you in a wizard-like step by step process involving 6 or 9 steps depending on Demo or Full Version update.
1 - Option to save ATO published tax tables as a pdf
2 - Select Company File (your data file) to load tax tables into
3 - Select MYOB® Program to use
4 - Select Product and Version (Demo tax table file is created)
5 - Run MYOB® and load Demo Version tax tables
6 - Final Screen for Demo Version, or Next for Full Version
7 - Enter Serial Number Code and Convert to Full Version
8 - Check rates correctly converted.
9 - Finish Screen for Full Version

There is a video covering all of the above available here.

All MYOB® versions up to 19.5 use 33 tax tables. 19.6 uses 61 and 19.7 uses 27.
The tax tables available from FGH Tables are designed to suit your version and will work correctly. The Flood Levy Exempt tables in 19.6 duplicate the normal tax tables. The 6 'deleted' tax tables have rates matching the tables they have been amalgamated with. Contact us if you require more information on this issue.

Software providers love it when even minor changes are made to reporting requirements. They often use these changes to try to 'encourage' users to upgrade.
The requirement to report additional superannuation contribution details on payslips has been deferred twice and is now scheduled to commence 1 July 2013. Although the details are still not finalised, the ATO has stated that in addition to showing the superannuation contribution amount, employers will have to show the date they expect to pay the contribution.
Some commentators see no value in having the 'expected' payment date on payslips. The ATO is currently working on having the superannuation funds provide more information to members about payments made.
Don't be fooled by the marketing campaigns of software providers. Once the requirements are finalised and in place, the ATO will clearly advise employers directly of the changes.
For MYOB users, showing the contribution amount and the expected date of the payment can be quite easily achieved using existing features in your current version. Please see www.namich.com.au for detailed instructions. You will not need to upgrade as a result of this proposed change.

Yes. Although there are only minor changes due to indexation (Medicare Levy, HELP/HECS and SFSS thresholds are usually CPI-indexed), as soon as the ATO releases the new tax tables we will format them for MYOB and have them available (expected by early June 2013). We will also add AR 19.8 and AE 11.5 to the list.
If you are on our mailing list (includes all existing clients), we will email you once the new tables are available.

Lot's of people are not happy with MYOB's linking of updated tax tables to a Cover Subscription.
Fortunately, company file activation and confirmation is NOT linked to Cover subscription. That is part of the licence agreement you have with MYOB. They will continue to activate and confirm your company file while you have your licence. I have never had cover and yet have been confirming my files for years.
Lots of people have been using our tax tables (some for 3 years now) and have not had any issues with MYOB, their licence or file confirmations.
If you reformat and re-install MYOB, as long as you keep a copy of your company file, nothing will change with tax tables or confirmation. Both tax tables and the confirmation info is stored in your company file. Reformatting or moving to a different computer will not change anything, as long as you continue to use the same version of MYOB you have registered against your serial number.

When a company file is first created and activated, a serial number must be specified. Once a serial number is entered, it stays in that company file, unless removed by a special process. MYOB can do this, as can we. We charge less and do it quicker - click here for details.
However unless the bookkeeper needs the serial number back, you should be able to continue to use the company file with this serial as long as you have the same MYOB version as your bookkeeper. The file must be 'confirmed' regularly with MYOB and they use this serial number as part of that process.
Generally each serial number can be used on 5 files. If for example your bookkeeper wants to activate another client's file using this serial number, he/she may want you to use your own (or you might want to use your own in case you need to contact MYOB etc), in which case the serial number will need to be removed and MYOB advised that it is no longer being used. You would need to ensure your serial number is registered with MYOB under your name. That way when you go to activate your file with your serial, it will work. I'll leave you to sort that out with your bookkeeper.
If purchasing tax tables from FGHTables, you will need to use the serial number currently in the file. Once tax tables are loaded into a company file, it will not matter if you then change the serial number, the tax tables will stay in the file.

Yes. See here for details about the Start a New Payroll Year process in MYOB®.

MYOB® generates 3 types of Payment Summaries, INB, ETP and BUS (Labour Hire). The ATO has advised that it will accept INB and BUS type payment summaries and the annual PAYG report (EMPDUPE) as long as they comply with their Specifications V9.0. This means provided you have Accounting Plus v18.5 or later, (and do not have payees with ETP type payment summaries) your payment summaries and EMPDUPE file will be accepted by the ATO.

The only change for MYOB® users for the 2012/13 financial year relates to Eligible Termination Payments. A new Payment Summary field has been introduced to replace 4 previous fields.

The problem is that there does not seem to be a way of excluding a payee who has received an Eligible Termination Payment from MYOB's Payment Summary process. It is not possible to de-select a payee and even if you make the payee inactive, the payee is still included in the EMPDUPE file that is produced. Unfortunately the ATO will not accept such an EMPDUPE file as the payee with the ETP will cause a validation error.

If you have version 18.0 or earlier (or have payees with Eligible Termination Payments) see Q9 about a solution called EMPDUPE Maker.

The other changes for the 2012/13 financial year relate to payees with Foreign Employement Income and non-super annuities. These payment summary types were never covered by MYOB®. See the ATO web site for further information.

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Frequently Asked Questions - MYOB

1.

Will there be any problems when it comes time to 'confirm' my file.

2.

Do I need to be a rocket scientist to load your tax tables?

No, the FGH Tax Table Updater will step you through the entire process. See Q37 for more details.

3.

I pay fortnightly wages so will your tables work for that pay frequency?

4.

Question deleted as it no longer applies.

5.

Will the tax tables over write any information I have in MYOB?

6.

Do your tax tables work with Enterprise v5?

7.

Will the tax rates for all the years back to 2005 be included in your tables or only 2010/2011?

8.

How do I check which tax table is used for a particular employee?

Open your data file, go to the Command Centre, Click on Card File, Card Lists, then the Employee Tab. Click on the arrow to the left of the employee's name, then select the Payroll Details tab, then Taxes. This screen should show you what tax table is selected for this employee.

9.

When I do end of year PAYG summaries and create the EMPDUPE file, the ATO will not accept it as there are some new requirements. Can you help here?

10.

Are you supporting the tax tables for next financial year (2012)?

11.

Are your tax tables the same as MYOB tax tables?

12.

Do I need Cover or the latest version of MYOB to be compliant?

13.

We are based in Timor. Can you make tax tables for MYOB Plus v18 for the withholding system here?

14.

I just called MYOB and I can't get the tax unless I pay over $500. How can you sell them for $55? - 2012

15.

I don't use Paypal. Is there any other payment option?

16.

Can you confirm your tax tables will not corrupt our data file?

Our tax tables work in the exact same way as MYOB's tax tables and they will definitely not corrupt your data file. However as with any procedure, we recommend you do a backup before you load new tax tables (our's or MYOB's) just in case there is a power failure or any other mishap.

17.

Are your tax tables legal?

18.

Is GST payable on the price of your tax tables?

Yes. Our ABN is 68 360 237 629 and we are registered for GST.

19.

I keep getting a 'Wrong AntiSpam Code' message and cannot submit enquiry/order.

20.

When I click the Buy Now button I get a 'Sorry - your last action could not be completed' message from Paypal.

21.

The Flood Levy no longer applies in 2012-13. I have AccountRight 19.6 which has normal and Flood Levy Exempt tax tables.

22.

Will your tax tables work with AccountRight 2011/12?

23.

What are the Carbon Tax changes?

24.

I am a bookkeeper and use MYOB. For some clients I have company data files which I keep on my computer and I enter all the data. Other clients have their own company data files which are periodically transferred to my computer for updating. Can I install the same tax tables to all the data files?

25.

Question no longer applicable.

26.

I have several clients interested in purchasing tax tables. Can I buy in bulk?

Yes. Bulk purchases of 5 or more can be organised via email. Send an email with an estimate of the number of tax tables you expect to purchase to admin'at'fghtables.com (replacing the 'a' with the relevant symbol) and we will get back to you with a price and procedure.

27.

How do I check what version I have?

Open MYOB, choose Help from the main menu, then About MYOB. This screen will show you the Australian Release Version number. In AccountEdge, click AccountEdge on the menu bar, look under About AccountEdge. Use the "Australian Version" number rather than the Release number.

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Taxable Payments Reporting
for the Building Industry

PAYG Withholding Reporting
and Payment Summaries

Our tax tables work in the exact same way as MYOB's tax tables and they will definitely not corrupt your data file.
However as with any procedure, we recommend you do a backup before you load new tax tables (our's or MYOB's) just in case there is a power failure or any other mishap.

Open MYOB, choose Help from the main menu, then About MYOB. This screen will show you the Australian Release Version number.
In AccountEdge, click AccountEdge on the menu bar, look under About AccountEdge. Use the "Australian Version" number rather than the Release number.

Click Setup on the menu bar, then Company Information. The serial number is found in the top left of the screen.
If you require a serial number to be removed from your Company File, see here.

My MYOB is due soon, and I am not happy about renewing my subscription, however one thing concerns me:

If I re-format the hard disk and I have to reinstall the program, then I have to activate the company file again. Will that be affected as I am not on Cover any more?